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2.2 Invite robots to your site

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1) Submit your site to Search Engines

Yes, let's send each Search Engine's spider a personal invitation to visit your site.

Baby-simple: go to the Search Engine that's important to you, and type in "add URL to name_of_the_search_engine", then follow the link you see, enter the necessary data and thus submit your website to this Search Engine.

Note! Search Engines don't expect you to submit all your webpages (just think of some forums that have a few thousand pages — the owner would go crazy submitting them!). All you have to do is submit your homepage.

Want an example? Here we go with Yahoo!.

I go to http://www.yahoo.com , type in add URL to Yahoo,

Add URL to Yahoo!

follow the necessary link ( http://search.yahoo.com/info/submit.html ) in the results page,

Add URL to Yahoo! Result

then choose to submit my website for free

Yahoo! Free Submission
Submit Website to Yahoo! for Free

and get to the page where I enter my website's URL.

Submit Website to Yahoo! Search Engine
Submit Your URL to Yahoo!

Click Submit URL — and that's it.

Submit your site to all Search Engines that you think are important, and the crawler will come to your site to look at it. What Search Engines are a must for you? First of all, these are: Google.com, Yahoo.com and Bing.com. For your convenience, here're the pages from which you start in these three:

If you expect clients to come from, say, Belgium or Germany, it's good to submit to their regional versions like Yahoo.de or Google.be. Also, if there's a special local Search Engine in your country, like Yandex in Russia, or Seznam in Czech Republic, it's also important to you.

Note! It won't take much of your time to submit to search engines, but it may take quite a long time till the crawler visits your site. In my practice, it took up to 6 weeks. And, it also depends on the Search Engine.

For instance, the elder of my sons Mike launched his personal website 16 days ago, and it got indexed by Google the day before yesterday, but he's still waiting for Yahoo!'s crawler to come.

For this reason, here's another thing I believe you should do:

2) Put a FAT link to your website

Quite logically: if the Google spider loves some web page and visits it quite often, and that page has a link to your site, then this Google crawler will be happy to follow the link and look at your site, too. Same thing about other Search Engines.

So here's what I'm driving at: try to get a link from some respected web page with a good Page Rank (preferably 4 and above).

DO IT NOW! Submit your website to search engines, or put a good link to your site, or do both.

Problem 2: Your site is hard for Search Engines to crawl

Note! A situation of the kind is quite common, and this problem may cause both a) no results at all and b)&d) incorrect number of results

Moreover, even if the site:your_domain_name query brings correct results, the problem may still exist, therefore going through what I say next is a must!

So... another problem that could occur: the Search Engine knows about your site, but the spider simply cannot crawl through it, as it's too inconvenient and search-engine-not-friendly. Well, this takes some more effort to solve, but no worries! The guide is here to help.

And, what I talk about further makes a big plus to know, even if your site is found by Search Engines. So look through the points below anyway, and do all I recommend. Even if you think your site is totally OK, I'm sure you'll find things to improve.

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2008-08-08 02:41:57: Jeremy Chatfield

A core technique of SEO is inbound linking. I'd have preferred to see you focus on techniques for generating inbound links than the relatively sterile technique of submission. Submission won't give you links or significant rank. Links can.

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2008-08-08 03:06:06: Dan Richmond

Whatever a core technique is, you can't ignore the rest. If you look at these pages more carefully you'll probably get my point. I'm not saying that submission to search engines ensures high rankings. I'm talking about things that give a site more chances to rank. As soon as I think it's time to talk of link building, I'll talk of it as well.

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2008-08-12 04:47:07: Stefano AGBAGLA

I can confirm what is said here:
submit your site to the search engine. Before you need to optimise it carefully using the validator w3c to check.
And i also agree with Jeremy saying that link exchange is the good way.

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2008-08-22 11:28:46: Marcin Świątek

for me the way of presenting those facts is reasonable... we can't just say to skip all measures and move on straightly to inbound links ...
it's like having discussion about what the most important things in relationship are... probably most of us would say that's love ( in my opinion it is) ... however there are many things that are no less significant, maybe they're not crucial however they make everything better

so I'm going on to the next page ;)

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2008-12-23 11:28:09: rodney ransom

I hope I didnt miss this in the reading, but How do you know if your site has been crawled?

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2008-12-29 04:49:07: Dan Richmond

@rodney ransom
Hi, please check the previous page once again:

http://www.seoinpractice.com/search-engines-listing.html

To check which pages of your site have been indexed (if any), use the site: command

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2009-03-17 19:45:17: Mike Olaski

FAT link Examples.

Maybe a quick reference of say easier to get, generally relevant (if you know what I mean), FAT links to start out with.

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2009-03-18 04:52:00: Dan Richmond

@Mike Olaski

Yes, you're right about relevance! Will be adding a mention of it with the next update.

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2009-03-29 20:24:21: Vashitwa Mishra

So far the guide is really easy to understand but I need help with the following and I would appreciate if any body can oblidge:

"So here's what I'm driving at: try to get a link from some respected web page with a good Page Rank (preferably 4 and above)."


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2010-04-19 12:54:38: Thomas Kampling

@Vashitwa Mishra,
the thing about pagerank (for those who care), is that every page with a certain pagerank, e.g. PR#2, links out to 10 diff. Websites. It passes by a percentage of its Pagerank to each of the sites it is linking to.
Here- PR#2- , linking to 10 diff. pages= 2 / 10 = 0.2pt. of Pagerank.
So you would get passed by 10 % of its Rank.
If the Linkcount increases, the percentage of "Linkjuice" passed by,decreases.
Your Pagerank is the summary of all the percentual Linkjuice from pages linking to you.
Thats why you would prefer a link from

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2009-04-02 14:35:48: Donna Goodman

Hi Dan,

Great chapter; and I have a link that you might appreciate:

http://freewebsubmission.com/

Interested in your thoughts?

Thank you for you hard work.

Donna

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2009-04-03 10:09:56: Dan Richmond

@Donna Goodman

Thanks for sharing the link!

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2009-04-08 21:47:37: Adam S

I totally agree with the first comment. I think submitting to search engines is a waste of time. They will find you, and quickly, with the right authority. We all know that authority comes from unique / high-quality content, and inbound links (the right ones).

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2009-07-14 16:50:04: Reid Horton

If i have my main page forwarded to the a different domain name (same site), do I need to submit both URLs to be crawled, or just the main new name domain? Sorry if that is confusing, great workshop/booklet here, fantastic tips.

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2009-07-23 09:43:59: Dan Richmond

Reid Horton

Not sure if I'm getting you right, but from what I can understand it will be better if you submit both URLs. Or get links to both, from a frequently-crawled website.

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2009-11-06 01:41:56: Vikas Sharma

For msn which is now bing please change url mention it is now

http://www.bing.com/docs/submit.aspx

Thanks
Vikas
www.divinelight.ca

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2009-12-07 21:17:56: Ken Taylor

Thank you for the Search Engine's submission links. I'm kind of from the old school. If I can submit to the SE's and use a FAT link, I'm going to do all that I can.

Why?

Because things are always changing. SE's are getting better. I like getting into making it a habit of thinking about SEO that:

"More is better and too much is not enough!" (think Backlinks)

"Less is more!" (She was wearing a to-just-above-the-knee dress with a low neck collar)



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2009-12-09 08:20:27: Dan Richmond

@ Ken Taylor

I am not sure that this is the case... Your goal here is simply to get indexed. You don't even have to submit several pages of your website (or get fat links to all pages for the same indexing purpose) - the homepage is enough. Once you're indexed you won't need to repeat the procedure.

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2009-12-13 02:01:07: Ken Taylor

@Dan

I got it now. Thanks. For some reason I was thinking about Ranking. But this lesson was all about getting my site indexed (I like to think "listed" in "Google's Big Book of Websites"--if, for example, I'm want to get indexed with Google)

I love imagery. Thanks again Don.

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2009-12-30 04:35:59: Paul Watchorn

So a 'FAT' link is simply the name given to a link from a page that has a good page rank?

Thanks

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2010-01-05 06:05:21: Dan Richmond

@Paul Watchorn

Not exactly. A FAT link is the name given to a link from a page that has a lot of visitors, top rankings for some good keywords and most importantly is often visited by search engines' crawlers.

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2010-01-06 11:51:19: Paul Watchorn

Thats interesting, thanks Dan

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2010-08-20 16:07:47: Martin Oxby

Link building lessons - that I'll be interested in. We do it, definitely, but getting ones in our industry is hard work, really hard work :-) But one step at a time. I'm liking the writing style here. Thanks again.

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2010-08-29 01:54:02: oochie garcia

hi dan,

i created my site using wix.com but i redirected the url using cjb.net

the original name of the site is: http://www.wix.com/oochiebabe/captureandprint

now the name is http://www.captureandprint.cjb.net

so, now which site name should i submit to the search engines?

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2010-08-31 05:37:45: Dan Richmond

Right now the is a frame on your new site, that points to the old site, this is not really a redirect. The older site will be analyzed by the search engines in any case. You might want to set up a 301 redirect on the old URL to the new domain and then concentrate on building links to the new domain.

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2010-08-31 18:18:32: oochie garcia

i'm sorry i got confused

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2010-09-01 18:19:35: Ivo Valentinov

Hi folks

What is the best way to get FAT link?

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2010-09-02 06:58:52: Dan Richmond

You can learn about that here: http://www.seoinpractice.com/where-link-building-starts.html

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